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This is Ukraine :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 7 0 Stepping in shit :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 5 12 Green Anarchy flag :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 5 3 Paris commune flag :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 11 0 Anarchist Federation of Spain flag :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 7 2 Midnight-Fantom,a walking contradiction :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 6 3 Think outside the workplace :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 9 3 Mike-the-cat logic #2 (read the description) :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 7 23 Shinmin Autonomous Region flag :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 8 6 Engles we gotta theorize :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 6 6 Titoism explained :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 7 5 The meaning of peace :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 6 1 How the anarchists ran Catalonia :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 12 2 We don't need the boss,the boss needs us :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 8 11 Remember kids :iconanarchistsyndicate:AnarchistSyndicate 7 0
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Are we good enough?
Peter Kropotkin 1888
One of the commonest objections to Communism is, that men are not good enough to live under a Communist state of things. They would not submit to a compulsory Communism, but they are not yet ripe for free, anarchistic Communism. Centuries of individualistic education have rendered them too egoistic. Slavery, submission to the strong, and work under the whip of necessity, have rendered them unfit for a society where everybody would be free and know no compulsion except what results from a freely taken engagement towards the others, and their disapproval if he would not fulfill the engagement. Therefore, we are told, some intermediate transition state of society is necessary as a step towards Communism.
Old words in a new shape; words said and repeated since the first attempt at any reform, political or social, in any human society. Words which we heard before the abolition of slavery; words said twenty and forty centuries ago by those who like too much their own qui
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This is Ukraine
This is who Ukraine needs.Click in on the image for better quality btw.
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Stepping in shit
Inspired by RochambeauFR and his artwork: Shit

Also RochambeauFR, i used your art except i erased all the logos you used, since i wasn't able to find a better version of this meme without anything on it.

Logos used:

Enjoy capitalism: prosicontra.com/wp-content/upl…
Antifa: i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/o…
Anarcho-capitalism:  upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…
Religion: static.newworldencyclopedia.or…
Trump make america great again: bunow.com/wp-content/uploads/2…
I'm ready for Hillary: images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=ht…
Dollar sign vector: images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=ht…
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Green Anarchy is a radical environmentalist movement within anarchism with strong emphasis on the protection on the environment (duh), most green anarchists are vegans as well.


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So i had a little conversation with the user DrewMJS however he blocked so i couldn't respond, what a special snowflake, so you're probably wondering, why am i responding to this one comment?

Well his comment was featured by the owner (TheTechnoToast) so i can't respond to an idiotic comment that was featured by the owner, so i can't let that slide.

Anyway here's our conversation: comments.deviantart.com/1/6691…

So let's begin:

"Socialism isn't Communism, it's power to the people."

What are you even trying to say here? Both them emphasize power to the people, are you implying that we say communism is authoritarian and and socialism is not? If that's the case, then i'm not sure if that's the funniest or the dumbest thing I've read, so let's educate ourselves:

Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by common ownership and democratic control of the means of production

Here's is a fairly short and simple book, explaining what socialism is: 

The ABC's of Socialism s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacob…

Communism is and extension of socialism, in which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money, and the state

N.I. Bukharin and E. Preobrazhensky: The ABC of Communism, Chapter 3: Communism and the Dictatorship of the Proletariat www.marxists.org/archive/bukha…

Frederick Engels 1847, The Principles of Communism www.marxists.org/archive/marx/…

So no, country in histroy has EVER claimed it was communist, not a single one, they claimed they were socialist that wanted to reach communism, but were they socialist? We'll see.

At the end of the day, none of that matters to collective citizens of the REAL WORLD. Ideals and politics aside, we all eat, sleep, breathe air and need money to survive.



It hardly makes a difference what you decide to call it and what "form" it takes,

What do mean what "form" it takes or what you call it? Socialism and Communism have been what they always were, and every socialist and/or communist believes this, whether you're a Marxist-Leninist,Maoist,Anarchist,Trotskyist,Marxist,Democratic Socialist (No, Bernie is a Social Democrat not a Democratic socialist)

However the difference is, what steps do you take establish that goal, that is the main difference between all those socialist ideologies i mentioned above, for example anarcho-communists believe that after the revolution, there should be an immediate overthrow of the state and establishment of communism, however Marxists-Leninists believe in the gradual transition to communism, first state-capitalism, then socialism and eventually communism.

Now that doesn't mean that if you are a socialist you need to advocate for communism.

Remember this:

Every communist is a socialist, but not every socialist is a communist

ripping it away from people who have worked hard and earned it isn't going to make everyone collectively richer and more successful.

What are you even talking about? Are you referring to that "socialism is redistribution of wealth" BS? No imbecile that's not what socialism is, if it was then socialism has existed since ancient times and capitalist countries are also socialist because they also have redistribution of wealth:

Untitled by AnarchistSyndicate
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redistri…

Untitled by AnarchistSyndicate



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redistri…

Now i know what you're thinking "BUT MUH EASTERN BLOC THO, IT EVEN SAYS ON THE WIKI PAGE U LINKED SOCIALIST PLANNED ECONOMIES CHECKMATE COMMIES"

Except for one thing, they were socialist in name only, were the means of production owned in common and controlled by the workers? No, the vast majority of socialists reject the soviet style planning, in the eastern bloc, and do not see them as favorable, so what were they? State capitalist:

Tony Cliff State Capitalism in Russia (1955/1974)
www.marxists.org/archive/cliff…

Russia was never socialist—and why … what we said over the years
www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/ed…

Peter Binns State Capitalism (1986)
www.marxists.de/statecap/binns…

‘State Capitalism’ in the Soviet Union
www.hetsa.org.au/pdf/34-A-08.p…

Richard D. Wolff | Socialism Means Abolishing the Distinction Between Bosses and Employees
www.truth-out.org/news/item/31…

What Was The Eastern Bloc? [link]

Noam Chomsky - The Soviet Union vs. Socialism [link]

Yoking two people together to move a load is only going to slow one of them down. They will move as fast as the weaker man.

I agree, capitalism sucks.

Socialism always seems to work in theory

Works in practice too: [link]

and most adamant socialists have never actually lived in a socialist society,

I have, so your argument is invalid.

Who's going to work to advance society when they're being promised free money stolen from those who worked hard for it?

Socialism isn't "MUH WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION THO" as I've already pointed out.

At the end of the day, this is why Hillary lost. Identity politics. This is why Bernie would have lost.Theories and false promises. And this is why Obama (especially Obamacare) was a disaster for Americans. Socialist system forced upon people and resisted and rejected.

What? What are you even trying to...wait, are you implying that Hillary, Obama and Bernie are socialists?

........

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Socialism always sounds nice in theory but every single time it's implemented, society suffers as a result.

The USSR,China etc. were not socialist, they were authoritarian state capitalist form the get-go these aren't examples of failed socialism if they never were socialist to begin with and false, it has worked when it's put into practice, you know when the workers actually control the means of production: [link]

Now, I happen to me the owner of a business so while I'd very much like to keep debating with you I don't have the time. Good. Day.

Hear that comrades? He has a business let's take his wealth and push it somewhere else #FeelTheBern
Paris commune flag
Today March 18 marks 146 years of the creation of the Paris commune, when a radical socialist movement known as the communards set up a commune in Paris that existed from 18 March - 28 May 1871

SOURCES:

www.marxists.org/history/franc…
libcom.org/history/1871-the-pa…
www.marxist.com/paris-commune-…
dwardmac.pitzer.edu/ANARCHIST_…
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So i had a little conversation with the user DrewMJS however he blocked so i couldn't respond, what a special snowflake, so you're probably wondering, why am i responding to this one comment?

Well his comment was featured by the owner (TheTechnoToast) so i can't respond to an idiotic comment that was featured by the owner, so i can't let that slide.

Anyway here's our conversation: comments.deviantart.com/1/6691…

So let's begin:

"Socialism isn't Communism, it's power to the people."

What are you even trying to say here? Both them emphasize power to the people, are you implying that we say communism is authoritarian and and socialism is not? If that's the case, then i'm not sure if that's the funniest or the dumbest thing I've read, so let's educate ourselves:

Socialism is a range of economic and social systems characterised by common ownership and democratic control of the means of production

Here's is a fairly short and simple book, explaining what socialism is: 

The ABC's of Socialism s3.jacobinmag.com/issues/jacob…

Communism is and extension of socialism, in which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money, and the state

N.I. Bukharin and E. Preobrazhensky: The ABC of Communism, Chapter 3: Communism and the Dictatorship of the Proletariat www.marxists.org/archive/bukha…

Frederick Engels 1847, The Principles of Communism www.marxists.org/archive/marx/…

So no, country in histroy has EVER claimed it was communist, not a single one, they claimed they were socialist that wanted to reach communism, but were they socialist? We'll see.

At the end of the day, none of that matters to collective citizens of the REAL WORLD. Ideals and politics aside, we all eat, sleep, breathe air and need money to survive.



It hardly makes a difference what you decide to call it and what "form" it takes,

What do mean what "form" it takes or what you call it? Socialism and Communism have been what they always were, and every socialist and/or communist believes this, whether you're a Marxist-Leninist,Maoist,Anarchist,Trotskyist,Marxist,Democratic Socialist (No, Bernie is a Social Democrat not a Democratic socialist)

However the difference is, what steps do you take establish that goal, that is the main difference between all those socialist ideologies i mentioned above, for example anarcho-communists believe that after the revolution, there should be an immediate overthrow of the state and establishment of communism, however Marxists-Leninists believe in the gradual transition to communism, first state-capitalism, then socialism and eventually communism.

Now that doesn't mean that if you are a socialist you need to advocate for communism.

Remember this:

Every communist is a socialist, but not every socialist is a communist

ripping it away from people who have worked hard and earned it isn't going to make everyone collectively richer and more successful.

What are you even talking about? Are you referring to that "socialism is redistribution of wealth" BS? No imbecile that's not what socialism is, if it was then socialism has existed since ancient times and capitalist countries are also socialist because they also have redistribution of wealth:

Untitled by AnarchistSyndicate
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redistri…

Untitled by AnarchistSyndicate



en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redistri…

Now i know what you're thinking "BUT MUH EASTERN BLOC THO, IT EVEN SAYS ON THE WIKI PAGE U LINKED SOCIALIST PLANNED ECONOMIES CHECKMATE COMMIES"

Except for one thing, they were socialist in name only, were the means of production owned in common and controlled by the workers? No, the vast majority of socialists reject the soviet style planning, in the eastern bloc, and do not see them as favorable, so what were they? State capitalist:

Tony Cliff State Capitalism in Russia (1955/1974)
www.marxists.org/archive/cliff…

Russia was never socialist—and why … what we said over the years
www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/ed…

Peter Binns State Capitalism (1986)
www.marxists.de/statecap/binns…

‘State Capitalism’ in the Soviet Union
www.hetsa.org.au/pdf/34-A-08.p…

Richard D. Wolff | Socialism Means Abolishing the Distinction Between Bosses and Employees
www.truth-out.org/news/item/31…

What Was The Eastern Bloc? [link]

Noam Chomsky - The Soviet Union vs. Socialism [link]

Yoking two people together to move a load is only going to slow one of them down. They will move as fast as the weaker man.

I agree, capitalism sucks.

Socialism always seems to work in theory

Works in practice too: [link]

and most adamant socialists have never actually lived in a socialist society,

I have, so your argument is invalid.

Who's going to work to advance society when they're being promised free money stolen from those who worked hard for it?

Socialism isn't "MUH WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION THO" as I've already pointed out.

At the end of the day, this is why Hillary lost. Identity politics. This is why Bernie would have lost.Theories and false promises. And this is why Obama (especially Obamacare) was a disaster for Americans. Socialist system forced upon people and resisted and rejected.

What? What are you even trying to...wait, are you implying that Hillary, Obama and Bernie are socialists?

........

Download by AnarchistSyndicate

Paris Tuileries Garden Facepalm statue by AnarchistSyndicate

Download (2) by AnarchistSyndicate

Download (3) by AnarchistSyndicate

Socialism always sounds nice in theory but every single time it's implemented, society suffers as a result.

The USSR,China etc. were not socialist, they were authoritarian state capitalist form the get-go these aren't examples of failed socialism if they never were socialist to begin with and false, it has worked when it's put into practice, you know when the workers actually control the means of production: [link]

Now, I happen to me the owner of a business so while I'd very much like to keep debating with you I don't have the time. Good. Day.

Hear that comrades? He has a business let's take his wealth and push it somewhere else #FeelTheBern

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19North95 Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thx for the watch!^^
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AnarchistSyndicate Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017  New Deviant
Not a problem tovarisch
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chris-the-sword Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2017  Student Traditional Artist
hello, are you from yugoslavia?

nice 2 meet you.
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Commie-kun Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2017  New Deviant
Thank you for the watch.
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AnarchistSyndicate Featured By Owner Mar 5, 2017  New Deviant
Not a problem comrade.
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Cardmare Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2017
Thanks for watching.
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AnarchistSyndicate Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2017  New Deviant
No problem comrade.
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Akhnaton-II Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
What do you think about this  Unite by Akhnaton-II
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AnarchistSyndicate Featured By Owner Feb 28, 2017  New Deviant
I think we should just stay with he,she.It's getting a little complicated with this whole genders thing.But i don't want to get involved in that.
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daraen1986 Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks for the watch, comrade.
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